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Pizza Pie! · Jul 11, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Well, to be honest I've always been curious about what's the better choice. Since the release of NF most monks started to use the combination of +5 ene wpn and offhand/shield. Using this configuration gives you firm 17 energy (12 from an offhand and 5 from a wpn) 60hp (30hp from a wpn and 30hp from an offhand) and basically 20% faster recharge on offhand's attrubute. Imho it's the best possible configuration, if you're beaten by something you simply change the offhand into a shield with appropriate inscription. BUT, recently I've seen some monks (like Teh Maverick from [Gr]) using a staff. What are the advantages? What are the inscriptions and mods used in it? Is it better/worse/equal to the wpn/offhand//shield combo?

Div · Jul 11, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42

+5 weapon and shield or offhand will always be better imo. Staffs are just good for that extra damage (but you can really just use a wand for it). Some staffs have energy+7<50, which can be helpful, but you can get that with a wand too. The only thing is that if you want the HSR over all attributes...

Tormented staffs have nice skins though, and PvP staffs are easier to make :P

Pizza Pie! · Jul 11, 2007, 09:40 AM // 09:40

So, people using staves in gvg just want to brag about how filthy rich they are so they can afford zodiac/celestial/tormented? :>

urania · Jul 11, 2007, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Staves are for the pro wanders out there...and for nubs. :P

Div · Jul 11, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizza Pie!

So, people using staves in gvg just want to brag about how filthy rich they are so they can afford zodiac/celestial/tormented? :>

Same reason why people use celestial/zodiac/elemental swords. A spear is by far better in terms of effectiveness (since you can catch rof's, hit trappers, etc.) but it doesn't look as cool.

lordelg · Jul 11, 2007, 12:49 PM // 12:49

It depends on what Char im playing, but i also like the 40/40 Wand/offhand sets when on Ele... but i do have the weapon swaps ready.

Kaon · Jul 11, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I use a 15>50 staff for l33t wanding. If i get attacked im always on shield anyway.

Don't take anything from Hella's Team, they are epic failure.

Minwanabi · Jul 11, 2007, 03:22 PM // 15:22

I'm curious.. why use a shield with the inscription for defense, if you're getting attacked, when you can still use an offhand with the same inscription? You don't get the extra armor from the shield if you aren't specced into that attribute (as in the 16, not the inscription), right? Unless it's your E-denial set, which is another story.. but yeah, why a shield instead of an offhand?

EDIT: ahaha, nevermind. Did some research, found you still get half the armor. Check. Unless this is also wrong, feel free to ignore my question.

Lord Mendes · Jul 11, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

you get +8 armor if you don't meet the req.

I Brother Bloood I · Jul 11, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

If ur even gonna use a staff u should use it on ur monk or warrior for conjure dmg. Everything else is just pointless u could just use a wand.

Pizza Pie! · Jul 11, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

So, summing up - using of a staff is pretty much useless, wpn + shield pwn all, did I get that right? Sooo it would be a better choice to invest in eg. zodaic sword + diamond aegis instead of paying 100k+ for a req 9 zodiac staff? :P

v for Valkier · Jul 11, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Staff is the better choice if your not being attacked.

Ensign · Jul 11, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

If you don't want to think about your weapon swaps, take a staff. They're the most rounded weapon you can take and ideal if you want to use one weapon for everything. But if you want to swap weapons and try to squeak a bit more performance out of your character, you won't use staves very often. A staff is really only good for the 40% fast cast if you're swapping often.

assassin of the god · Jul 12, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

The only reason to take a staff would be to have a 36% HCT/ 20% HSR +30 health set(a set which atm you can only get in pve). Or ofcourse if your bad.

Pizza Pie! · Jul 12, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Thank you for all the answers. Personally, I use the wpn + offhand/shield but I've become obsessed with buying a zodiac staff ever since their prices lowered. I think I'd stay with the first configuration

Kaon · Jul 12, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16

Only noobs use pve characters in pvp, unless you're rich and can be bothered enough to buy a dozen of shields.

lordelg · Jul 12, 2007, 09:23 AM // 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaon

Only noobs use pve characters in pvp, unless you're rich and can be bothered enough to buy a dozen of shields.

So that the 4 elemental shields, Slashing, blunt, piercing, 20% crippled (for flagging on Burning), and maybe a -5(20%) if your lazy... i count 9 not dozens.

(plus the mandatory black dye for each, and for your l33t armor) Yeah i was rich

Pizza Pie! · Jul 12, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49

So true, people get the wrong impression of pve chars in pvp nowadays. Armors are extremely cheap now - you can buy tyrian armor for your female monk (which is imho beautiful) for about 8k. Sup vigor rune is ~10k so you can get below 20k. Offhands = greens. +5e wpn = can be common skin so even 2k (+ 30hp which is 8-15k). The only thing that can be expensive are shields. But I think I could manage to equip my char with full pvp inventory for something like ~200k :F

Kaon · Jul 12, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55

The second part of my post is probably more important: Cant be bothered. And there's reward points now anyway, so really... who uses pve chars?

Thom Bangalter · Jul 12, 2007, 11:11 AM // 11:11

Staves are good for two things: casting aegis while in an enchanting set and hoping for the bonus, and using the universal 20% recharge for non attributed spells such as holy veil. Everything else is better with wand/offhand or sword/offhand set up.

and yes, I said sword. Spears are ugly.